Opened 12 years ago

Closed 12 years ago

Last modified 12 years ago

#2351 closed Bug (invalid)

Option to remove "ALL" when deleting a torrent

Reported by: amazingrobie Owned by:
Priority: Highest Milestone: None Set
Component: Transmission Version: 1.73
Severity: Major Keywords:
Cc:

Description

I just updated to 1.74b1 last night and this morning I right clicked for the first time to remove a torrent from the list, only the option to remove "all" including the data file plus the torrent file was no longer there. WTF?!?!? Why? How are you supposed to remove the torrent files, manually y having to search and find them. Screw that!!! Fix this or I'm downloading utorrent.

Change History (35)

comment:1 Changed 12 years ago by amazingrobie

  • Severity changed from Blocker to Major

comment:2 Changed 12 years ago by livings124

  • Resolution set to invalid
  • Status changed from new to closed

This was removed because once a torrent file is added to Transmission, the connection to the actual .torrent file is no longer necessary. It is prone to breakage. You can set the torrent file to auto-delete when adding, and if you need the file again, it can be recovered from the File menu's "Save Torrent File As...". See #2287 for more information.

comment:3 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

  • Resolution invalid deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

this is not so much about the torrent file but about the files created by the torrent: the files to download. i really miss that option, too. with one click you could delete the torrent file and all files created by that very torrent. very handy! i don't understand why one would take out such an option. that a set-back for sure :-/

comment:4 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

  • Resolution set to invalid
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

You can still delete the downloaded files (files created by the torrent). Why do you need the torrent file (which can still be retrieved with command-S). Why can you not set it to auto-delete that file?

comment:5 in reply to: ↑ 4 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

Why can you not set it to auto-delete that file?

because when i start the torrent i don't know yet whether i wanna delete the file or not.
maybe later on i might notice it's the wrong torrent or the wrong version or it's too slow ... you name it.

comment:6 Changed 12 years ago by livings124

You're not making sense. If you have it set to autodelete then you don't have to worry about deleting the torrent file later. And you still have the option to delete the data file within Transmission.

comment:7 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

i'm making sense.
i do not have set the auto delete option because normally i wanna keep the torrent file. so in those cases in which i do not wanna keep it the 'delete all' option was/is very handy.

comment:8 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

sense and nonsense aside why are you so keen on removing that option?

comment:9 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

If you need the file you can get it from the File menu or Apple-S. Why do you want to keep the torrent file?

comment:10 in reply to: ↑ 9 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

Why do you want to keep the torrent file?

there're several reasons for that which however i won't tell.

does it matter? people seem to like the option and it does no harm to the app as far as i can tell so why removing it by all means?

comment:11 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

I have no heard a single reason why this feature is needed. "Reasons you won't tell" doesn't help convince me. It adds unneeded complexity to the delete options, bloats the code, and adds unnecessary tracking that breaks easily leading to inconsistency and confusion.

comment:12 in reply to: ↑ 11 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

I have no heard a single reason why this feature is needed.

read the posts above:

because when i start the torrent i don't know yet whether i wanna delete the file or not.
maybe later on i might notice it's the wrong torrent or the wrong version or it's too slow ... you name it.

comment:13 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

I still don't understand that. The option to delete the data file still exists. If it's the wrong file, why would you want the torrent file saved?

comment:14 in reply to: ↑ 13 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

If it's the wrong file, why would you want the torrent file saved?

then i don't wanna save it of course but i don't that before of course

comment:15 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

forgot 'know'. it should read "i don't know that before of course"

comment:16 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

You can set the application in preferences to delete the .torrent file when adding it. Therefore, it's deleted right away.

comment:17 in reply to: ↑ 16 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

You can set the application in preferences to delete the .torrent file when adding it. Therefore, it's deleted right away.

sure but i don't know whether i wanna keep it or not before!

comment:18 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

Why would you want to keep it at all? Once you add it to the application it's useless.

comment:19 in reply to: ↑ 18 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

Why would you want to keep it at all? Once you add it to the application it's useless.

no, e.g. torrents from private trackers are connected to the ip and stuff sometimes. or as another example getting the same downloads from diff. sites and the one torrent file has more and the other has less trackers included ...
there're many more examples ...

comment:20 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

I do not understand what you are saying. What does private trackers have to do with anything? The torrent file is still stored internally by Transmission, and can still be recovered from the File menu.

comment:21 in reply to: ↑ 20 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

I do not understand what you are saying. What does private trackers have to do with anything? The torrent file is still stored internally by Transmission, and can still be recovered from the File menu.

okay, i'm done.

either you don't get or don't wanna get my point.
you're the boss here anyway.

comment:22 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

I honestly do not see your point.

comment:23 in reply to: ↑ 22 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

I honestly do not see your point.

all right, one more try:
because i generally wanna keep the torrent files the auto-delete option is not an option. also i don't know if i wanna keep the torrent file or not before i started it so that's the second reason why the auto-delete option is of no use for me.

btw i had a look into the forums and it seems there're others who miss it.

comment:24 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

There are a few others that still want it. There always will be whenever anything is removed. Nothing I can do about that.

You still have not explained why you need the torrent file after adding. Why do you want to keep them? If you really need a copy you can generate it with "Save Torrent File as...". I don't see a reason to keep the files around.

comment:25 in reply to: ↑ 24 ; follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

There are a few others that still want it. There always will be whenever anything is removed.

let's turn it around, i don't see a reason why it's been removed.

You still have not explained why you need the torrent file after adding. Why do you want to keep them? If you really need a copy you can generate it with "Save Torrent File as...". I don't see a reason to keep the files around.

how many times do i have to answer that ?

as another example getting the same downloads from diff. sites and the one torrent file has more and the other has less trackers included

comment:26 in reply to: ↑ 25 ; follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

Replying to gearshift:

Replying to livings124:

There are a few others that still want it. There always will be whenever anything is removed.

let's turn it around, i don't see a reason why it's been removed.

I've listed the reasons. I haven't seen a reason to add it back.

You still have not explained why you need the torrent file after adding. Why do you want to keep them? If you really need a copy you can generate it with "Save Torrent File as...". I don't see a reason to keep the files around.

how many times do i have to answer that ?

as another example getting the same downloads from diff. sites and the one torrent file has more and the other has less trackers included

I don't understand this. What does that have to do with saving the torrent file? You add trackers from the tracker inspector pane. I don't see the relation between downloading the same torrent file and saving that file. Can you explain further?

comment:27 in reply to: ↑ 26 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

Can you explain further?

i'm sorry i quit.
i don't see how i could make you understand better.

btw don't get me wrong i like transmission overall. it's just unfortunate that an option i used often is gone.

comment:28 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

That's too bad. I have consulted others to try to understand what you're talking about, but that don't understand either.

comment:29 in reply to: ↑ 28 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

That's too bad. I have consulted others to try to understand what you're talking about, but that don't understand either.

hard to believe. however whos to say we shouldn't give it one final try. fingers crossed.

in general i wanna keep the torrent files (no matter why) so the auto-delete option is not the right thing for me. but sometimes a while after starting a torrent it turns out that for some reason it's not what i was looking for and then the removed option comes in handy.

that's it. not that hard at all i would say.

comment:30 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

Alright, I do understand that. But then the question is: Why do you want to save the torrent file and why can't you use the Apple-S command instead?

I still don't see a reason to keep the torrent file.

comment:31 in reply to: ↑ 30 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

Why do you want to save the torrent file

oh there can be many reason for that.
maybe i wanna share it, maybe i wanna try it with a different client or maybe just for the archive ... just to name a few.

comment:32 Changed 12 years ago by livings124

If you want it to share or try a different client, retrieve it from the File menu option (Apple-S). If you want to archive, then don't set it to autodelete and you'll have it for archiving (why you want to archive it is beyond me).

This is reaching the point where it's "I want it because I do." There is no strong argument to restore it, and the simplification/clarification/non-breaking benefits outweigh any contrived arguments to keep it.

comment:33 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

for any software can there be any stronger argument than 'the users like it'?
security issues aside of course.

comment:34 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by livings124

If we added every feature every individual user wanted, the app would be bloated and terrible. So yes, there are many stronger arguments.

comment:35 in reply to: ↑ 34 Changed 12 years ago by gearshift

Replying to livings124:

If we added every feature every individual user wanted, the app would be bloated and terrible.

that was not how i meant it of course.

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